tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post7651095266981757791..comments2024-01-11T10:58:30.769-05:00Comments on Jesus community: politics and our place in itTed M. Gossardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10580691315315271791noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-67065145310989453572008-05-05T04:45:00.000-04:002008-05-05T04:45:00.000-04:00Mike, I think I tend to think the same way you are...Mike, <BR/>I think I tend to think the same way you are saying here, across the board. We each need to be true to our unique callings of course. But generally speaking we need to steer a course that is not beholden to the system or to any one political party. That is present but challenges all and does good works, as God's kingdom workers in Jesus. Something like that.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Ted M. Gossardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580691315315271791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-32508423337704559682008-05-05T04:42:00.000-04:002008-05-05T04:42:00.000-04:00Nancy,From what you're saying I think you hit on a...Nancy,<BR/>From what you're saying I think you hit on a key point. Jesus is not enthroned through his ascension as king over all. But the kingdom he is working out is quite different from the kingdoms or governments of this world. Yet it is a kingdom that is over them and can impact them, but is to do so primarily through his people, the church. <BR/><BR/>So there's all kinds of ways we can impact government. I think it's where we draw the lines and how we do it that is likely important, and that's where good Christians will differ.Ted M. Gossardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580691315315271791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-10673322224039116682008-05-04T16:25:00.000-04:002008-05-04T16:25:00.000-04:00Good post. I think balance can exist here. We shou...Good post. I think balance can exist here. We should neither run from politics or lose ourselves in it. <BR/><BR/>Right now I tend to feel Christians have made an idol out of politics. We believe that a party can change the nation. What idolitary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-25786557606618095742008-05-04T15:15:00.000-04:002008-05-04T15:15:00.000-04:00faith in the power of Godfor all belongs to Him.faith in the power of God<BR/>for all belongs to Him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-21785466881978099682008-05-04T15:13:00.000-04:002008-05-04T15:13:00.000-04:00"Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever; w..."Praise be to the name of God for ever and ever; wisdom and power are his. <BR/><BR/>He changes times and seasons; <BR/>he sets up kings and deposes them.<BR/> <BR/>He gives wisdom to the wise <BR/>and knowledge to the discerning. <BR/><BR/>He reveals deep and hidden things; he knows what lies in darkness, <BR/> and light dwells with him. <BR/><BR/>I thank and praise you, O God of my fathers: You have given me wisdom and power, you have made known to me what we asked of you, you have made known to us the dream of the king."<BR/><BR/><BR/>daniel 2: 20-23Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-14061433855896376032008-05-04T10:19:00.000-04:002008-05-04T10:19:00.000-04:00this is what i am thinking... as a body we are cal...this is what i am thinking...<BR/> <BR/>as a body we are called to Love God and Love one another...which is a 24-7 job right there.<BR/> <BR/>we are also called by God to do things individually for God. these things are a sacrifice of our worldly desires to allow God to do things through us.<BR/><BR/>the Spirit works in ways that is not of this world. we must work in the ways that we are called to.<BR/><BR/>as american citizens we have the freedom to vote, to run for office in our communities and beyond. we have the right as citizens of this country to be involved in our government in many ways. but we see corruption in our government, in our communities, in our nieghborhood, in our own family and yes, even in our selves.<BR/><BR/>so, what do we do and where do we start? i think the answer is in who we follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-38506318731469616632008-05-04T00:27:00.000-04:002008-05-04T00:27:00.000-04:00Yes, Bob. Especially hard in that the ways of this...Yes, Bob. Especially hard in that the ways of this world and the way of Jesus are definitely not in sync. Yet as you say, and what happened in South Africe with the Truth for Reconciliation Commission is a great example of this, we do need to think of God's redemption in Christ in terms of government in this world as well. I need to work on that thought.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Ted M. Gossardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10580691315315271791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20184070.post-8957595611414171782008-05-03T22:04:00.000-04:002008-05-03T22:04:00.000-04:00Ted,Thanks for your input on this! In an election ...Ted,<BR/>Thanks for your input on this! In an election year, we Christians need to talk about the basics of a political philosophy before we get into who we think would be the best president based on our Christianity. How can we do the latter before we do the former!?<BR/><BR/>A Christian's influence must indeed be felt everywhere, including government. MLK was very much influencing government - not just through rallying a movement to nonviolently bring about change in regard to race, but also being outspoken about poverty and the Vietnam War. <BR/><BR/>Also, I think that the message of the New Testament is that Christ is reconciling ALL THINGS to himself. This includes government. I notice that in <A HREF="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%201:15-20;&version=72;" REL="nofollow">Colossians 1:15-20</A> that among the "all things" listed that Christ created are "thrones, powers, rulers, authorities," and that these things were "created through him and for him." <BR/><BR/>And I also notice that the passage says that "God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him (Christ), and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross." <BR/><BR/>Therefore, I think that part of the Christian calling in this present world is to take part in God's reconciling to himself ALL THINGS, including government.<BR/><BR/>This is our hard work of being a redemptive force in the world!Bob Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08576734261775426385noreply@blogger.com